──To make accessibility common practice, like infrastructure, you need to change the mindset of those operating the facilities. Is social inclusion staff also leading this transformation?
Tsukihashi: That’s right. At the Tokyo Bunka Kaikan, I work with all the departments in the building. When the concert hall needs certain improvements or new developments, it’s not enough to coordinate only with specific departments; I try to make sure all departments are on the same page before proceeding.
Funanokawa: The Tokyo Photographic Art Museum is not as large in scale as the Tokyo Bunka Kaikan, but I also ask all departments for cooperation. This includes working closely with those who interact directly with visitors, like staff at the reception, security, shop, and café. While I’m taking a leading role, it feels less like starting from scratch and more like expanding the work they have done in the past. For example, when exhibition posters are ready for review, I look at aspects like colors and contrast to determine their accessibility. I do take into consideration the design and creative intent, but I sometimes suggest things like colors being a bit too light. These issues are often overlooked or considered low priority but can become discussion topics when a social inclusion staff member brings them to the table. That may be the purpose of having a specialized role.